Nugget
Jan 1, 05:20 PM
Sounds like the keynote will either be really boring or really surprising.
autrefois
Sep 6, 10:37 AM
If Apple is concerned with showing potential switchers that Macs are more affordable than PCs, why not keep on the old Mac mini low-end model and price it at $499 (like the low-end Mac mini used to cost a while ago) or eventually even a little lower?
It's all fine and dandy that Apple can show during the keynote that the Mac Pros are significantly cheaper than comparable Dell machines, but why not try to show they can be competitve (or at least exist) at the under-$500 end of the spectrum as well?
It's all fine and dandy that Apple can show during the keynote that the Mac Pros are significantly cheaper than comparable Dell machines, but why not try to show they can be competitve (or at least exist) at the under-$500 end of the spectrum as well?
SoraLimit
Sep 19, 03:09 AM
He's being sarcastic. :rolleyes:
Sarcasm doesn't really work on the internet.
Sarcasm doesn't really work on the internet.
zeemeerman2
Apr 19, 11:13 AM
What are these "Macs" you speak of?
Long, long ago, when the animals could still talk and houses didn't have Windows, a round piece of fruit made a Mac, a revolutionary way to use computers ( /com-puu-ters/ ). They improved the system time and time again to the extend that we have nowadays.
Then came the evil Bill, known from the creation of fences and Gates, and he made something that looked like nothing but was in fact something. Namely, glass Windows. You could look through it, yet not go through it. It was symbolic to say "You can see your home, but there's no possible way to go there. Muahahaha!"
Unknown by many people, Macs at the other hand, you just could eat (since Mackintosh is a sort of Apples) through and go through. It would finish your hunger and you would be never hungry again.
And because of the amount of water in the Mac, you wouldn't be thirsty again either. Romans knew that already; they named it Aqua.
Nowadays, times are different. The Aqua is bit by bit drying up, and Apple thinks more about phones. But even if the Aqua will be gone soon, the Mac is still an Apple, and it will finish your thirst.
Apple knows that, and they think chocolate has a better taste. Therefore, they have Cocoa now. Much better than Aqua. And it fills directly to your stomach, underneath all things you see, so you don't even have to see that you're drinking. You can do other things while your stomach is filled with Cocoa.
...
Well, anyone else can made a story from puns of Apple stuff? (Anything about getting a job (Steve Jobs)? ... Just saying...)
Long, long ago, when the animals could still talk and houses didn't have Windows, a round piece of fruit made a Mac, a revolutionary way to use computers ( /com-puu-ters/ ). They improved the system time and time again to the extend that we have nowadays.
Then came the evil Bill, known from the creation of fences and Gates, and he made something that looked like nothing but was in fact something. Namely, glass Windows. You could look through it, yet not go through it. It was symbolic to say "You can see your home, but there's no possible way to go there. Muahahaha!"
Unknown by many people, Macs at the other hand, you just could eat (since Mackintosh is a sort of Apples) through and go through. It would finish your hunger and you would be never hungry again.
And because of the amount of water in the Mac, you wouldn't be thirsty again either. Romans knew that already; they named it Aqua.
Nowadays, times are different. The Aqua is bit by bit drying up, and Apple thinks more about phones. But even if the Aqua will be gone soon, the Mac is still an Apple, and it will finish your thirst.
Apple knows that, and they think chocolate has a better taste. Therefore, they have Cocoa now. Much better than Aqua. And it fills directly to your stomach, underneath all things you see, so you don't even have to see that you're drinking. You can do other things while your stomach is filled with Cocoa.
...
Well, anyone else can made a story from puns of Apple stuff? (Anything about getting a job (Steve Jobs)? ... Just saying...)
triceretops
Apr 12, 10:18 PM
Is there anybody actually filming this? From what the tweets are describing, the audience are loving it, i'd like to see this keynote.
Everybody there is an editor. They don't know how to use a camera.:p
Everybody there is an editor. They don't know how to use a camera.:p
AlphaDogg
Feb 17, 11:52 PM
here's my current setup. I finally got a Intel Mac and it will become to main machine soon. In the Pic is everything in the sig but the IIc and Performa.
Nice setup! It has a little bit of everything in it!
Nice setup! It has a little bit of everything in it!
TTarkas
Apr 21, 11:27 AM
Is Al Frankin running for president again? :rolleyes:
At least he's got a birth certificate. Although I think it refers to Stewart Smalley or something like that.
Watch this issue to be linked to net neutrality in a heartbeat, and the logical .. cough: BS cough: .. conclusion that the government should make all rules for consumer devices and electronic signals.
At least he's got a birth certificate. Although I think it refers to Stewart Smalley or something like that.
Watch this issue to be linked to net neutrality in a heartbeat, and the logical .. cough: BS cough: .. conclusion that the government should make all rules for consumer devices and electronic signals.
takao
Feb 28, 07:59 AM
I currently have a 4.7L V8 Dodge Dakota. I'd buy a diesel version of it in a heartbeat. I could still get the power/hauling ability needed but have the mileage to justify having the pickup.
But now with the possibility of having $5/gal gas looming, the 18 HWY MPG may force my hand.
i just looked up the torque on the new 4.7 v8: 446nm ... compared to this thread Chevrolet Cruze 2011 new diesel with 360nm from a 2.0 I4 ... no wonder you would want a diesel for pulling ;) (the 3.7 v6 entry engine only produced 319 nm of torque ... in a truck heavier than the moon)
that the US car makers still sells trucks, pickups etc. without diesel options is simply a complete lack of any common sense. diesel engines are practically made to be perfect for pulling and towing in commercial vehicles
for it's south american Amarok pick up VW simply took the 2.0 I4 TDI from the golf/jetta and set up the engine slightly different in regards to the power/torque band and ends up with an engine which was very likely cheaper to develop, cheaper to build had less weight and still achieves 400nm of torque
But now with the possibility of having $5/gal gas looming, the 18 HWY MPG may force my hand.
i just looked up the torque on the new 4.7 v8: 446nm ... compared to this thread Chevrolet Cruze 2011 new diesel with 360nm from a 2.0 I4 ... no wonder you would want a diesel for pulling ;) (the 3.7 v6 entry engine only produced 319 nm of torque ... in a truck heavier than the moon)
that the US car makers still sells trucks, pickups etc. without diesel options is simply a complete lack of any common sense. diesel engines are practically made to be perfect for pulling and towing in commercial vehicles
for it's south american Amarok pick up VW simply took the 2.0 I4 TDI from the golf/jetta and set up the engine slightly different in regards to the power/torque band and ends up with an engine which was very likely cheaper to develop, cheaper to build had less weight and still achieves 400nm of torque
woddy
Jan 12, 09:07 AM
i think there may be a umts / hsdpa powered macbook for the out off office use.
:cool:
:cool:
rickdollar
Apr 19, 02:55 PM
The logical thing would to mirror the recent MBP refresh. I really dont think they would include USB 3.0 ports until Ivy Bridge.
It doesn't look like it according to the quote but he was referring to Ivy Bridge.
It doesn't look like it according to the quote but he was referring to Ivy Bridge.
aiqw9182
Apr 12, 09:13 PM
This all started just because I said I hope Final Cut doesn't turn into iMovie. Somehow that turned into iMovie is pro and Final Cut is the Model T of editing.
No, it didn't. It turned into you complaining about iMovie's layout. Now let's try not to clog up this thread and enjoy the show.
No, it didn't. It turned into you complaining about iMovie's layout. Now let's try not to clog up this thread and enjoy the show.
aafuss1
Aug 29, 06:34 PM
No Blu-Ray, as slot load would not be able to have enough cooling-leave it for next Mac Pro.
Combo drive disappears, and is now EDU only. All retail now have DVD burning as standard-like on the iMac. Core Duo on all 2 configs. Perhaps a air-cooled GPU with dedicated RAM for the best modfel.
Combo drive disappears, and is now EDU only. All retail now have DVD burning as standard-like on the iMac. Core Duo on all 2 configs. Perhaps a air-cooled GPU with dedicated RAM for the best modfel.
Spock
Nov 29, 01:45 PM
Its the Pippin 2!! this time its intel instead of Bandai!
syklee26
Sep 7, 10:34 AM
here's a direct quote from apple.com store
"You'll get one main .Mac subscriber account with 1GB of storage space and four additional .Mac accounts with 250MB of storage space each"
so still a decent deal compared to apple price
well the problem is that sub accounts cannot exist without the main account and main account has to be renewed every year. so this essentially means i cannot use family pack by myself for 5 years.
"You'll get one main .Mac subscriber account with 1GB of storage space and four additional .Mac accounts with 250MB of storage space each"
so still a decent deal compared to apple price
well the problem is that sub accounts cannot exist without the main account and main account has to be renewed every year. so this essentially means i cannot use family pack by myself for 5 years.
macintel4me
Sep 1, 03:53 PM
What "This" is This? You need to include a link with your references please? We can't read your mind. :confused:
I think "This" is this thread; "23-inch iMac on Sept 12th?".
I think "This" is this thread; "23-inch iMac on Sept 12th?".
Veg
Feb 28, 04:13 PM
How do i get that screensaver on my MBP
Download it from here: http://www.9031.com/downloads/screensavers.html
Click the Fliqlo floppy.
Download it from here: http://www.9031.com/downloads/screensavers.html
Click the Fliqlo floppy.
KingSleaze
Apr 8, 09:59 AM
For example, Apple had to make Safari due to Microsoft pulling out of the mac.
And there I thought that Microshaft stopped development of Internet Exploder for the Mac because Apple released Safari. Which happened first?
And there I thought that Microshaft stopped development of Internet Exploder for the Mac because Apple released Safari. Which happened first?
paul4339
Apr 26, 01:42 PM
Amazon could have just used "AppShop" to avoid this issue, but no, of course not.
they should use Amazon App Jungle: an un-curated mess. ;)
they should use Amazon App Jungle: an un-curated mess. ;)
Full of Win
Mar 22, 03:43 PM
Did not say he would improve it either. :(
Adding Bluetooth makes a lot of sense.
Adding Bluetooth makes a lot of sense.
AppliedVisual
Oct 24, 01:33 AM
Nope - Santa Rosa won't arrive until March or April, and that's when the next major upgrade will be made.
Which is all the more reason to be fairly sure a C2D update is imminent. And we probably shouldn't expect too much from this update...
I'm expecting Apple to have addressed cooling issues through better heatsinks combined with better fan control software, possibly better fans too. The 160GB HD should be added as a CTO option as it's available for the Mini, but don't expect any change to the overall design or a new HD bay. Possibly faster DVD writers, but don't expect DL support for the 15" MBP or MB. Just about everything else that people keep wishing for is probably out of the question until a major overhaul takes place.
Which is all the more reason to be fairly sure a C2D update is imminent. And we probably shouldn't expect too much from this update...
I'm expecting Apple to have addressed cooling issues through better heatsinks combined with better fan control software, possibly better fans too. The 160GB HD should be added as a CTO option as it's available for the Mini, but don't expect any change to the overall design or a new HD bay. Possibly faster DVD writers, but don't expect DL support for the 15" MBP or MB. Just about everything else that people keep wishing for is probably out of the question until a major overhaul takes place.
justbuyamac
Sep 15, 07:29 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_4; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.8 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.1 Safari/533.17.8)
A non-issue for the 3 iPhones in my account. We have used cases on all iPhones we've had.
Sounds like CR is trolling for free publicity. Antenna and reception issues have been an issue with all cell phones from the very beginning.
A non-issue for the 3 iPhones in my account. We have used cases on all iPhones we've had.
Sounds like CR is trolling for free publicity. Antenna and reception issues have been an issue with all cell phones from the very beginning.
peharri
Jan 5, 03:14 PM
Well, I ended up having to build a small time machine to find out what would be announced. Wasn't difficult, except that Objective C is a PITA. Anyway, here's the log cut and pasted from engadget.com
(Note, order of lines is in chronological order, for obvious reasons)
8.55am Hall is close to full. Lot of excited murmmering, lights still on. REM tracks playing, audience is mostly annoyed.
9.01 "Losing my religion"
9.03 lights dim, Jobs takes to the stage
9.05 Welcome everyone, great year for Apple, iPod Hifi, Intel switch
9.10 More on the way, better products, great year ahead for Apple
9.25 30 Years of Apple, 30 great more years. Achievements include Apple I, Apple II, Apple IIe, (listing each product)
9.45 Time to talk about what's next. May have heard a rumour about a phone. (Audience laughter)
9.47 iPod Phone. It's a headset. Plugs into iPod. Excellent sound quality.
9.50 Also handsfree kit for a cellphone. Bluetooth or 2.5mm jack.
9.55 Just to re-interate, as people on IRC feed seem to think otherwise, iPod Phone is a handsfree kit. So you don't have to take off your headphones when answering phone. It's not a cellphone. Audience seems troubled by this.
9.57 Integrates with iChat Video too, using Bluetooth feature. Now having chat with Bill Gates over iChat.
9.58 Range: 10-20 feet (extension cables available, for wired connections). "Works with all carriers"
10.05 "So that's iPod Phone", $299 for basic version (iPod nano), $499 for version for iPod. Now, iTV.
10.10 New name "iMac mini"
10.12 Comes with keyboard and mouse. Wireless available.
10.15 View content downloaded from iTunes. Simple configuration to see shared music libraries.
10.17 Still demonstrating configuration options.
10.25 Several Apple engineers are now on stage showing Steve how to point the iMac mini at Phil's iTunes library.
10.28 Music is now being downloaded. Shared content is automatically downloaded into local storage to avoid network stutters. iMac mini is not available for use during download. Entire library is downloaded each time.
10.30 "On to the next thing", 3% of library downloaded. "Leopard". "This one changes its spots"
10.35 Significant changes underneath.
10.40 My. Word. Steve Jobs has just demonstrated the superiority of ZFS over other file systems. You have to see that to be believed. Take a look at the stream when it's posted. I mean, it was unreal. I've never seen such a clear technical explanation that was so obvious and compelling about a file system before.
10.45 Clapping abates for a few seconds, but then continues.
10.47 Apple employees are out with fire extinguishers, hosing audience to try to get them to quiet down so that Jobs can continue the presentation.
10.50 One last thing.
10.52 Mac in a Windows world. Impossible to run Windows applications without emulation.
10.55 Microsoft's dominance. Monoculture. Technical superiority of Windows. (?) BTW Phil's library is now 25% transferred to the iMac mini.
10.59 Poor performance of XNU. BSD "1970s" operating system. Darwin served its purpose.
11.00 Dave Cutler, designer of Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista has just come on stage.
11.05 New kernel for Mac OS X. Mac OS X high level subsystems built upon Windows. New operating system. "Mac OS W". Leopard is Mac OS W 11.0.
11.07 Jobs is now talking to Bill Gates on the big screen again.
11.08 "Best of Apple, Best of Microsoft, everything will 'just work' from now on"
11.10 On a personal note. Steve Jobs "Best years of my life at Apple"
11.12 Excited to be named CEO of Disney previous day, amazing new opportunities, but running two major companies difficult. (Bill Gates is still on screen, he's part of the conversation)
11.15 Successor at Apple needed to be picked, someone with experience, knowledge about how to succeed in a difficult market, perhaps changing Apple to be the #1 and not the #2
11.16 Bill Gates, whose departure from Microsoft was announced last year, to take the helm of Apple later this year. "I couldn't be more excited. Apple is a great company, and we're going to make some great products".
11.20 The start of another great year at Apple, thanks for coming.
11.22 Lights are back on, people are leaving conference hall.
(Note, order of lines is in chronological order, for obvious reasons)
8.55am Hall is close to full. Lot of excited murmmering, lights still on. REM tracks playing, audience is mostly annoyed.
9.01 "Losing my religion"
9.03 lights dim, Jobs takes to the stage
9.05 Welcome everyone, great year for Apple, iPod Hifi, Intel switch
9.10 More on the way, better products, great year ahead for Apple
9.25 30 Years of Apple, 30 great more years. Achievements include Apple I, Apple II, Apple IIe, (listing each product)
9.45 Time to talk about what's next. May have heard a rumour about a phone. (Audience laughter)
9.47 iPod Phone. It's a headset. Plugs into iPod. Excellent sound quality.
9.50 Also handsfree kit for a cellphone. Bluetooth or 2.5mm jack.
9.55 Just to re-interate, as people on IRC feed seem to think otherwise, iPod Phone is a handsfree kit. So you don't have to take off your headphones when answering phone. It's not a cellphone. Audience seems troubled by this.
9.57 Integrates with iChat Video too, using Bluetooth feature. Now having chat with Bill Gates over iChat.
9.58 Range: 10-20 feet (extension cables available, for wired connections). "Works with all carriers"
10.05 "So that's iPod Phone", $299 for basic version (iPod nano), $499 for version for iPod. Now, iTV.
10.10 New name "iMac mini"
10.12 Comes with keyboard and mouse. Wireless available.
10.15 View content downloaded from iTunes. Simple configuration to see shared music libraries.
10.17 Still demonstrating configuration options.
10.25 Several Apple engineers are now on stage showing Steve how to point the iMac mini at Phil's iTunes library.
10.28 Music is now being downloaded. Shared content is automatically downloaded into local storage to avoid network stutters. iMac mini is not available for use during download. Entire library is downloaded each time.
10.30 "On to the next thing", 3% of library downloaded. "Leopard". "This one changes its spots"
10.35 Significant changes underneath.
10.40 My. Word. Steve Jobs has just demonstrated the superiority of ZFS over other file systems. You have to see that to be believed. Take a look at the stream when it's posted. I mean, it was unreal. I've never seen such a clear technical explanation that was so obvious and compelling about a file system before.
10.45 Clapping abates for a few seconds, but then continues.
10.47 Apple employees are out with fire extinguishers, hosing audience to try to get them to quiet down so that Jobs can continue the presentation.
10.50 One last thing.
10.52 Mac in a Windows world. Impossible to run Windows applications without emulation.
10.55 Microsoft's dominance. Monoculture. Technical superiority of Windows. (?) BTW Phil's library is now 25% transferred to the iMac mini.
10.59 Poor performance of XNU. BSD "1970s" operating system. Darwin served its purpose.
11.00 Dave Cutler, designer of Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista has just come on stage.
11.05 New kernel for Mac OS X. Mac OS X high level subsystems built upon Windows. New operating system. "Mac OS W". Leopard is Mac OS W 11.0.
11.07 Jobs is now talking to Bill Gates on the big screen again.
11.08 "Best of Apple, Best of Microsoft, everything will 'just work' from now on"
11.10 On a personal note. Steve Jobs "Best years of my life at Apple"
11.12 Excited to be named CEO of Disney previous day, amazing new opportunities, but running two major companies difficult. (Bill Gates is still on screen, he's part of the conversation)
11.15 Successor at Apple needed to be picked, someone with experience, knowledge about how to succeed in a difficult market, perhaps changing Apple to be the #1 and not the #2
11.16 Bill Gates, whose departure from Microsoft was announced last year, to take the helm of Apple later this year. "I couldn't be more excited. Apple is a great company, and we're going to make some great products".
11.20 The start of another great year at Apple, thanks for coming.
11.22 Lights are back on, people are leaving conference hall.
miles01110
Sep 6, 08:48 AM
Hmm... the Mini still has no Core 2 Duo? That does not sound too promising for MacBook (Pro) updates... unless Apple only wants to use the Core 2 Duo for the high end laptops (MacBook Pro) of course... Or are they waiting untill Leopard has been released?
I didn't think they would put the Core 2 Duo in the mini before the MBP.
I didn't think they would put the Core 2 Duo in the mini before the MBP.
theBB
Jul 19, 04:21 PM
Which is exactly why the past few weeks have been a great time to load up on Apple stock. Apple has been increasing computer sales with transitional computers. The "real" machines aren't out yet.
In other words, Apple growth won't be slowing down any time soon. In fact, it should probably accelerate over the next 12 months.
When the "real" machines are out, Vista will be out as well. Unless Leopard has revolutionary improvements, the difference between Windows and OSX+iLife would be much less than that it is today. I would still appreciate the UNIX under the hood, but I doubt most consumers care. If Mac sales or market share starts to come down a bit due to fewer switchers, the share price could easily crash.
In other words, Apple growth won't be slowing down any time soon. In fact, it should probably accelerate over the next 12 months.
When the "real" machines are out, Vista will be out as well. Unless Leopard has revolutionary improvements, the difference between Windows and OSX+iLife would be much less than that it is today. I would still appreciate the UNIX under the hood, but I doubt most consumers care. If Mac sales or market share starts to come down a bit due to fewer switchers, the share price could easily crash.
